2012 Draft Position Eligibility

Current Rule:  20 games at a position in the prior (including farm).  If a player didn’t play 20 games at a position, then the position he played them most is used.   No more 10% or 20%.   That’s history Pal!

We’ll have some players changing positions this year (Morneau DH) that won’t accumulate 2 games by draft day.  I believe these types should be afforded the FLEX-ability to be placed at new position.

Also, does anyone know where to find games played at DH in the minors?  Baseballreference.com shows games played at all positions but DH.  WE can simply look at games played then subtract out the difference to find how many were at DH.   I think we all need to get on the same page with this.

Please post any guys you have questions about.

Draft Order Please Double Check

Round 1

1) WTNY

2) JM

3) Si7

4)TUSA

5) TRC

6) TUSA (from 101)

7) DMB

8) EE

Round 2

9) Si7 (from WTNY)

10) Jm

11) Si7

12 TUSA

13) WTNY (from TRC)

14) EE ( from TUSA ,from 101)

15) DMB

16) Si7 (from EE)

Compensation

17) DMB

18) JM

Round 3

19) WTNY

20) EE (from Jm)

21) Si7

22) DMB ( from TUSA)

23) TUSA (from TRC)

24) 101

25) EE (from DMB)

26)WTNY (from EE)

Round 4

27) WTNY

28) JM

29) Si7

30) DMB (from TUSA)

31) TRC

32) 101

33) DMB

34) EE

Round 5

35) WTNY

36) JM

37) Si7

38) TUSA

39) TRC

40)101

41) DMB

42) JM (from EE)

Round 6

43) WTNY

44) JM

45) JM

46) TUSA

47) TRC

48) 101

49) Si7 ( from DMB)

50) EE

Round 7

51) WTNY

52) JM

53) Si7

54) 101 ( from TUSA)

55) TRC

56) 101

57) TUSA (from DMB)

58)EE

Round 8

59) WTNY

60) EE ( from JM)

61) TUSA ( from Si7)

62) EE (from TUSA)

63) TRC

64) 101

65) DMB

66) JM (from EE)

Round 9

67) WTNY

68) JM

69) Si7

70) 101 ( from TUSA)

71) TRC

72) 101

73) DMB

74) EE

Round 10

75) WTNY

76) JM

77) Si7

78) TUSA

79) TRC

80) 1o1

81) DMB

82) EE

Round 11

83) WTNY

84) TUSA ( from JM)

85) Si7

86) TUSA

87) TRC

88) 101

89) DMB

90) EE

 

 

2012 Draft Traded/Acquired Picks

DMB:

Traded:

3rd  EE

6th Sox

7th  TUSA

 

 

Acquired:

3rd:  TUSA

4th: TUSA  2011 Draft

Compensation:  Papelbon

 

SOT Trade Announcement

DMB Trades:  Zach Stewart

 

Evil Empire Trades:  2013 3rd Rd Selection

 

 

Winter Meetings Notes – 2/25/12

PROPOSAL #1: FUCK WINS
- Innings Pitched will replace wins, all voted in favor.  (EE and DMB vote not needed.)

PROPOSAL #2: PLAYER OPTIONS, TWO TOO MANY.
- Player options reduced from 3 per player to 2.

PROPOSAL #3: PLAYERS ON 60 DAY DL
- Rule change denied, 5 votes to 1.

PROPOSAL #4: THE JM IS KILLING MY DRAFTDAY BUZZ RULE
- Rule change denied, but we’re allowed to beat him with a bag of soap.

PROPOSAL #5: IF HE’S ON THE FARM HE’S ON THE FARM/BARTOLO COLON RULE
- Votes were 3 – 3 on this, WTNY, Si7, and JM in favor, no need to ask EE or DMB.  Sticking point is how MLB teams handle DL designation on opening day.  We want to take another look at this once we know the DL rule (do they get designated as MLB or Minor league free agents – Kalish, Revere types).

PROPOSAL #6 25 MAN ROSTER
- Rule change denied. 4 – 2, WTNY and TUSA in favor

PROPOSAL #7 24 MAN ROSTER, change 10th pitcher spot to flex position.
- Rule change passed, 5 -1. TRC against, WTNY changed mind to push through.

PROPOSAL #8 Sal Perez Rule, FA’s acquired during the season can’t be kept.
- Voted down.

PROPOSAL #9 Papelbon Rule
- SOT FA’s who are acquired after the MLB Trade Deadline are not eligible for compensation.

PROPOSAL #10 MULTIPLE NUKES TO ACTIVATE FARM/RESERVE LIST
- Passed, although we’re limiting the “max” to two  nukes per week. Only players eligible are those on the roster after the draft, pre-spice draft.  On the first transaction sheet, all those on the draft day roster will be noted by Andy.

PROPOSAL #11 OBP vs AVG
- OBP voted in, AVG voted out.

PROPOSAL #12 Draft Lottery
- Proposal declined.

Proposal # 9 Multiple Nukes to activate farm/reserve list


Owners should be allowed multiple nukes ONLY to activate players they own at the end of the draft either reserved or on the farm.  Example the draft ends and Flowers is on TRC reserve list and Joe Benson is on our farm……….Benson gets called up both players start playing well so we want to activate them . Under the current rule I’d need an injury, trade or the one nuke. This would allow more control and flexibility of our farm and reserve list.  Seeing how we already own those two players we don’t effect priority or any other team. Would just mean two more players hit the waiver wire

Again I’d like this to only cover players owned at the end of the draft, it wouldn’t be for players picked up and reserved during the season.

Thoughts?

2011 WM Proposal #8 Players Lost to NL Compensation

To follow along with MLB:

No draft pick compensation will be allowed to any SOT team for a player lost to NL via FA or Traded to NL unless the player was

 

1.  On your keeper List entering the season

2.  Drafted  onto your 24 (20 farm) roster.

 

This would eliminate teams from picking up players who may qualify late in the year just to get a draft pick the following year.

 

This would take effect in 2013.

 

Thoughts/Comments/Concerns?

2012 Draft Compensation List

Here are the minutes from Pat.  Post any inaccuracies and/ or corrections that need to be made in the comments.

MLB and MiLB Players lost to NL

  • WAR (Offense) has replaced VORP

o        Compensation rewarded at end of 2nd rd

§         Higher the WAR, higher the pick if multiple guys qualify

§         Milb, the higher the rank the better the pick

o        Top 3 at each IF position and DH

o        Top 10 OF

o        Top 20 SP

o        Top 5 RP

  • Milb, we will use top 100 from the following:

o        Keith Law

o        Sickles

o        BA

o        BP

  • Name just has to appear on one of these lists
  • Top 100 is mix of AL and NL
  • Footnote: Once the new season begins, we will use the upcoming year’s list.  For instance, Rizzo and Fuentes would be applied to 2011 lists but they are grandfathered into the voting comp rule of 2010.

Proposal #7 Keeper Eligibility

MLB new rule doesn’t allow FA compensation to the team losing a player to FA the following year if that team acquired the player during the season.   For example,  the Sox add Roy Oswalt in July, he then leaves for FA.  The sox wouldn’t be able to get compensation.

I’d like to apply this to SOT.  For example, Mike Carp, was picked via FA in 2011.  My rule, which would be imposed in 2013, wouldn’t allow DMB to keep Carp on this roster, making him a FA in next years draft.

I haven’t thought this out at all, but wanted to get it down on paper for all to discuss.

 

Thoughts?

 

DMB

Proposal #6 25 Man Roster

MLB teams have the choice between how many pitchers or position players they want on their MLB active roster.  For instance, there may be times when the Rays carry 11 pitchers and the Sox carry 10, totally a strategy for what suites their needs at the time.

I propose we move to a 25 man roster adding a position for U/P.  GM preference on whether to carry a 2nd U spot or a 11th P. 

Astros are coming, we have 20 man minor leagues and I doubt we will have SOT expansion.  No better time than now to move to a 25 man roster!