Winter Meeting Proposal #1 Farm Eligibility
Here we go. I want to address the problem many owners will have come draft day. With 20 minor leaguers on each roster, teams are going to run into problems if a farm guy, say Michael Saunders, makes the opening day roster. Under the current rules, i have to keep Saunders on the 23 man roster, and then have the option to reserve him after the draft.
Here’s what i want to change. Players whom are eligible for the farm, players like Saunders, Brantly, and Jackson, should be allowed to be placed on a teams farm system EVEN IF THEY MAKE THE OPENING DAY ROSTER. The thought process being why should teams be penalized for having good minor leaguers that are making opening day rosters. This way the owner gets to choose whether or not a Saunders type will on the Major or minor league roster.
To recap. Players whom are farm eligible going into the 2010 season, may be placed on the farm no matter what.
To go along with rule, i’d like to give teams full control of these players throughout the year. for example, daric barton goes on the dl, i then decide to activate Michael Taylor in place of Barton. Once Barton is activated to the my active roster, Michael Taylor either gets placed back in Farm or Reserve List.
Thoughts? Comments? Concerns?
is this working
One question are we still going to have a reserve list?
yes. I need to create each owner a contribor. New to this.
Yes. reserve list starts once the draft is completed.
Mike, just want some clarification. I know you probably answered this already so forgive but I want to make sure I understand the entire proposal.
So, guys like Saunders, Brantly, and Jackson will be eligible for the farm if they make the opening day roster if said SOT team chooses to keep them on the farm roster.
Also, we will still have to the ability to reserve players with 6 years (I hoped this is changed to 3 years) or less service time after the draft is completed.
Am I understanding this correctly?
If so, my question is, we’ll have the aforementioned players that made the opening day roster for the first time on the farm. Then after the draft have we can reserve similar type players with less than 6 years service time. Doesn’t seem like we’re creating one reserve list for these first timers calling them farm eligible and then we still have this reserve list after the draft for players that qualify for the old rule. Why not just make one reserve list? Why separate? Then when Saunders or Brantley get called up we need to figure out where to put them….farm or reserve.
I’m in favor of a reserve list prior to the draft but I think making these type of players farm eligible is going to causes some issues.
Players eligible for your farm(prospect status) can start the year in your farm. Last year, if they were on the MLB roster we were forced to have them be a part of our 23 man roster. This year a team can choose to keep that player on the farm while occupying 1 of 20 farm spots.
There isn’t a reserve list, these players are part of your farm.
Once the draft is completed, teams will be able to reserve players as we did this past year.
So only one reserve list, which is created once each team has compiled 23 mlb players and 20 Farm players.
I hope this helps.
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So when you say we have complete control of farm players can we activate them and reserve them as we see fit ? Or do we have to keep player lineage. Using the Barton example: Barton gets injured you replace him with Jackson……..Barton returns from injury, Jackson gets reserved or sent back to the farm (for the record I think he needs to be reserved and his salary counts against the cap for the rest of the season). So now Jackson in on the farm or reserved, then Ellsbury gets hurt, so you can activate Jackson again to replace Ells…..process repeats ? What happens if you activate Jackson to replace a player you nuked ? Does he have to remain active until he gets sent down ? What if he gets benched or struggles are you allowed to reserve him as you see fit?
I don’t want young pitchers being allowed to be activated for every two start week, so we need to put a number on how many options a player gets in a year, or make it just for injured reserved players. Meaning, in order for a team to move a farm player to the reserve list, he must be replaced by the injured player or new player tied to him.
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Sounds like the owner who preached “no roster hoarding” for years wants to create a way to “roster hoard”.
Mike, that did answer my question. Thanks.
Roaster hoarding is creating a reserve list to stash players. My rules keep every team with same amount of players starting the year. 23 Active and 20 Farm.
I’m a traditionalist.
I have a question are we allowed to draft a player then reserve him?
No players can be reserved until the draft is completed. Each team at the end of the draft is to have a 23 man activer roster and 20 Farm players (if they choose). This way there is no advantage for one team over another.
Sorry I meant draft a player, then reserve them once the draft is complete? Or can we only reserve players that we owned before the draft begins
Yes you can. Same as last year
How does the 2nd part of this proposal not create a bench?
TRC did that last year. Although I don’t think the reserve rule was intended for that when first proposed last year
Ok. Its all starting to come together for me.
AG,
The second part of the proposal refers to the existing reserve list we have once the draft is completed. That’s already in existence. Not proposing to change that here.
maybe i am confused; but allowing these players to be taken off and then placed back on the farm and/ or reserve list sounds like a bench to me.
It’s only for players with prospect status. We’ll keep the “reserve list” name for naming purposes. Allwing teams to protect these young players, wherein the past if a saunders type was just riding the pine, we would have to endure his non-performance, trade, or nuke him. this way we can simply put him on the reserve list till further notice.
can’t you do that now under the current rules. if saunders opens the season on the m’s you can reserve him after the draft and then activate him if is actually playing later on. if saunders starts the year in the minors and is called up during the season you don’t have to promote him if he is riding the pine.
NO sir! Under the current rule, we have to start Saunders on the 23 man Roster. this rule would allow Saunders to be placed on my farm instead.
OK. Now I get that part. What about the “full control” aspect of your proposal? PLease explain what you mean by that exactly.
Still figuring out details. Not sure if we limit full access to the following:
1. Only can reserve the farm player when the original player comes back from the dl.
2. I don’t want to see a young pitcher, say N. Feliz replacing a floating starter on Soxin7 every two weeks to take advantage of two start weeks. This is not my intention. So we have to make sure any rule changes doesn’t allow for this.
3. Limit each farm guy to 3 options? 4 Options? throughout the year.
Don’t really know. Thoughts?
I’d be against options. I like the strategy involved with the decision to activate a farm player or not.
Maybe go with two options . If Si7 wants only has 2 options and he wants to have Feliz replace a floating starter then he is left with only 1. Once that last option is burned Feliz must remain on Si7 active roster for the remainder of the year.
I like this one, but I like Rich’s proposal on player options. That gives us control over the entire farm. Rich, you should put that proposal up for discussion.
That proposal is similar to what I posted above about Feliz, Still working out the kinks on it though.